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For a detailed presentation, please see this link here.

	Territory ID and proposed name
	The Territory ID (from OpenGeofiction:Territories, e.g. AR123a) and proposed name of the country

AN160^∈^⊾ - Fåglitav (In reference to a local religious name, indicating the place from which birds watch over and protect Earth)

	Physical geography
	An overview of climate, topography and landscape of the country. It is advised to also create a sketch, you can add a link to this (hosted on imgur or similar)

Please refer to Slides 2 through 8 of the presentation.

One of the primary efforts to start the territory rework would be to strengthen the visual impact of previous glaciations and tectonic activities with a greatly reliance on the NW-SE oriented striation of mountains, coastlines, and inland waterways.
To this end, at locations shown in the PPT and at other locations, more fjordic intrusions would be made, as well as paring down some of the actual landmasses in the north themselves for a more slender shape to the territory. These oceanic basins would still contain "threads" of numerous small and mostly uninhabited islands, rich with subpolar and polar birds, fish, and other wildlife.
Current glaciated regions of the country would be reformed into more slender mountain ridges punctuated by steep valleys, rather than the current "globule" system of glaciers, particularly in the middle sections of the country.
Koppen climate classification would remain consistent with the wiki standard map for Antarephia. Note the confluence of oceanic and wind currents that results in unique unsettled conditions in the northern parts of the country. For these reasons, the larger cities in the northern part of the country at current would be consolidated and shifted south to more protected inland waterways.

	Human geography
	A brief description of the territory demographics, economic development, land occupation, infrastructure and mapping style

Please refer to Slides 9 through 15 and Slide 19 of the presentation.

As a result of the previously mentioned climatic conditions, the population on the northern island would be concentrated more centrally, shifting the population center slightly south. The population locations of the southern islands would not change, leaving the majority of it open wilderness due to harsh conditions and winter ice intrusion.
The largest and capital city would have approximately 210,000 residents (See slide 10) with 2 other cities just above 50,000 residents (near to the capital), and approximately 7 cities between 10,000 and 50,000 residents. The rest of the villages would be small and scattered, with a total country population of around 850,000 denizens, with most of this on the northern islands and only around 50,000 total people living in the south.
In terms of infrastructure, there would only be approximately 100 miles of actual motorway in the entire country, in the primary corridor of population, as seen in Slide 12. Most of the long distance roads in the country would be trunk or primary roads with 2 lanes for the most part, but 4 lanes at some sections (undivided, or small median, not built to expressway standard).
Nearly every population center would be old cities and villages with road networks not laid out in particular format, except for areas of modern redevelopment.
With respect to railways, please see Slide 13 and Slide 14. Along the main corridor, there would be higher frequency rail, and elsewhere stemming from these cities there would be lower frequency rail. In all cases, the rail would NOT be high speed, but would be fully electrified. Top speed for passenger trains would be in the ballpark of 80mph. The entire rail network would be used by freight and passenger jointly, with no dedicated tracks solely for passenger use. The gauge would be standard across the entire country at 1435.
Fåglitav would be an export-oriented economy. The bedrock of this would be the petroleum & natural gas reserves offshore of Fåglitav, as well as a stout timber industry. Historically, there would have been a large ship production element to the timber industry for the construction of seal and whale hunting ships as well as intercontinental long-haul wooden ships, but with modern metal ships, this would not particularly exist anymore in the modern era. However, some manufacturing in the form of paper products and furniture would be present, with Fåglitav Furniture being a particular niche.
For primarily domestic-use products, fishing would be a longstanding historic and modern industry with seasonal ice sheet encroachment on the most southern portions of Fåglitav. Canonically, trawling was the main method for fishing between the 1970s and 2008, at which point it was banned due to sustainability reform in the country.
Some mining would exist, but uncommon due to terrain limitations and environmental laws.
Currency: Fjäder
Imports/Exports: Approximately $170 billion and $195 billion, respectively.
Strongest trading partners would be states in southern Antarephia and in Archanta.
Undecided on more complex metrics such as GDP , inflation, and HDI.
Mapping style would be the same style in which I always map things, with higher details to curves and natural feature edges, using multipolygon relationships for land cover. For an idea of how I classify roads (i.e. trunk, primary, secondary), please see my work in Penquisset. Feel free to ask any further questions or regarding mapping intentions.

	History & culture
	A brief description of the intended culture and language

Please refer to Slides 16 through 18 of the presentation.

The Fåglitavi cragged coastline and intense mountain ranges are a combination of tectonic activity along 2 fault lines, as well as widespread glaciation during the last cold period, at whatever canonical point that may be in OGF. During the recession of the glaciers, native inhabitants traversed south for new farmland in the fertile runoff valleys, establishing fishing colonies starting s early as 4500 years ago.
Over the next 2000 years, periodic improvements and advancements would have been made to expand agriculture and agricultural equipment, as well as fishing equipment. Around 2000 years ago, Fåglitav would have seen the emergence of lumbering for the shipbuilding industry, concurrent with the discovery and usage of metals in the mountain ranges, allowing for production and other assembled products.
During this time, trading relations with other countries in Antarephia (and later Archanta) would have instigated a change in local tongue, losing the wholly native languages present in Fåglitav prior, becoming more influenced by other roman script languages.
Approximately 1800 years ago, the first effort to unify Fåglitav would have occurred with Iyamr, a village chieftain from the north of the country who sought to unify all of the islands in the area under a common government and rule. While Iyamr sought these ends primarily though diplomacy, his successors (not necessarily all by blood) would be more intense, and seek to unify through force. These efforts lasted over 500 years, with the largest reign during this time under Vevin II including about 80% of the northern lands and 30% of the southern lands, ultimately failing due to a series of harsh winters that crippled the available army and ended the campaigns. During Vevin II, the official name for the unified lands was Vevinen, but after the collapse of the army, this name only stuck with a region in the north which had been the stalwart center of the unification campaigns for the 500 years.
Approximately 1100 years ago, the climate experienced a marginal increase in temperatures from natural causes that improved the weather and arable lands available across the islands. This opportunity was not unnoticed by other nations in Antarephia and Archanta, who sent resource expeditions to Fåglitav. However, several large population centers in the north during this time recognized the need for control over these resource-rich lands to prevent foreign influence and to protect natural resources.
Approximately 700 years ago a coalition of local leaders using the name of Iyamr once again sought this mission, succeeding in unifying approximately 85% of the country against foreign influence in just a few dozen years, establishing a central government, which claimed control over all of the islands, even those areas which had not amiably joined the state. It was at this point that the name Fåglitav was chosen, to honor the unifying feature, the nesting ranges of the mountains, which contain some of the largest avian biodiversity on the planet.
Despite the unification efforts, there was no guarantee against foreign lumber exploitation, with a series of minor skirmishes and battles populating the region between 700 and 400 years ago, with no escalation due to the relative lack of military might on behalf of the Fåglitavi, and the logistics challenges and isolation of campaigning in these lands for resources.
However, during this time, several more villages and populations saw the successes of the centralized government in holding off significant foreign influence. When the central government established parliamentary power and a prime minister rather than the tradition chain of chieftains, significant effort was made to establish trade routes through the two adjacent continents, which ultimately led to economic stability. This economic stability encouraged more areas to official recognize themselves as being within the nation and allowed for coordination of infrastructure, public resources, and economic management. The one particular area during this time that did vehemently reject incorporation was Tarrases, as being a colonic outpost, there were pressure put on the locals by the trade companies and many financial incentives given to keep them as a foothold to these southern lands.
As the ages of wars came to a close and modern governance took central stage across Antarephia and Archanta, the outpost transitioned to more of its own sovereign entity, and both sides came to recognize each other, only ever partaking in a dozen or so small skirmishes with each other across their shared history.
In the age of industrialization and technology, modern culture emerged in Fåglitav, engaging in new industries of the age and phasing out those that were no longer sustainable, such as its once bedrock-status shipbuilding. Despite these changes, the deep-rooted sentiments and cultural identity of the Fåglitavi held strong, with a shared religious unifying element, placing strong values of sustainability. While trading was definitely important, the geography of the location natural led to some isolationism with respect to the rest of the continent during the pre-industrial era, but with modern technology this would have been ameliorated due to modern transportation, the travel industry, and the reliance of the rest of the world on natural gas resources and oil resources which were discovered off-shore and taken advantage of starting around 200 years ago.
The culture of Fåglitav would be bound to the religious history, trading history, and physical geography of the lands.
Fåglitavi cuisine would be primarily based in fish, sea farming, and cold-climate vegetables, including: trout, alewife, salmon, whale (now banned), cheese, milk, nut gruel, potatoes, and salted game meat.
Fåglitav buildings would traditionally be almost entirely made of wood, with Fåglitavi style consisting of wood houses with great pointed rooves where the substructure is entirely made of wood, including bolts and joints. Modern structures and building materials would expand to use metal, concrete, and other synthetics. Several older buildings may also be found made out of cut granite or marble blocks. Several of these buildings would be world heritage sites.
In recent times, Fåglitavi cinema would have emerged, producing movies with themes primarily focused on the natural world, and redemption. Several award-winning films would have been produced by a certain studio, Skånta, established in 1970 by a former assemblywoman turned artist. During the same period, another studio, Lervafilm, became notable during this time for its claymation works (for both children and adults). The success of Lervafilm during the 1970s and 1980s would have resulted in numerous spinoff studios of artists (including some former Lervafilm employees), creating one of the world’s most prolific producers of high-quality claymation films, for which it is recognized globally for to this day.
Fåglitavis celebrate their National Day on September 22nd, dedicated to the date on which the chain of chieftans handed over power to the first prime minister, coincidentally falling at approximately the same time as the spring equinox. Many people wear traditional garb and participate in one of numerous parades, festivals, or specifically Födlfisks, great ceremonies celebrating birds, fish, the circle of life, and rebirth. Other important national holidays include Saint Hörån’s Day, Harvest Day (Skördag), Day of the Aves (Vindag), Saint Isse’s Day, and Christmas (Or OGF’s Christmas Equivalent).
Fåglitav would have a robust national parks and protected areas network, including both terrestrial and aquatic environments

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Please refer to Slide 20 of the presentation.

Active projects include:

Owned: AR120-09 Penquisset
Manager of Sub-area of a Collab: AR120-11-10/13 Westham County & Six Lakes County
Manager of Sub-area of a Collab: AR120-91 Cornflower County & Klamesta County

Please let me know if you have any questions.

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Zytik (talk) 21:05, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

	Discussion
	Discussion for clarification & decision

Hi Zytik,
Here are some remarks/questions, but not as an Admin team member:

AN160 being in the Southern Hemisphere, March 22^nd is around the autumnal not vernal equinox.
Is there a reason for using Scandinavian-looking (aka Ulethan) names so far South from the rest of the group?
AN160 is at higher latitudes than existing inhabited RW location in the same hemisphere. It would be hard to imagine exactly how it would look like, but given your proposed capital city location (~60°S), you can find some inspirations from places in the RW northern hemisphere, such as: Juneau, Bergen, or more inland such as Gävle or Turku. I suppose it makes senses to shelter your harbours, but maybe not too much or facing colder sea. This may mean you won't have ice-free harbours.
--Aiki (talk) 08:26, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello Aiki, thank you for your reply; Updated the March to September, I some times mix up hemispheres in OGF to real world comparisons, thanks for noting that. W/rt captials, I have already been looking at influence from Trondheim, Bergen, and Stavanger for influence. With respect to the language, I am flexible with the conlang that is used for the territory, I was only adopting the language that seems to exist from the previous owner. If it fits better with the rest of the subcontinent, I am able to change this as needed. Zytik (talk) 13:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello future neighbour across the sea (I say thisout of confidence in your application and mapping 😃). I have some general observations and questions more out of curiosity, and also some questions regarding mapping in the region that might be good to address.

Firstly, I am glad to see someone take interest in more rural and natural mapping, and I believe southern AN is a great place to see this done. On the topic of natural geography, I am curious what you envision the geologic background for the landmass to be, my instinct seeing the existing layout tends me towards complex plate boundary system with numerous active fault zones presentlybuilding up the orography. You have, however, provided little detail on the elevation of the terrain in the island chain, so I am not really sure how you interpret it yourself.

On the topic of more pressing regional matters, I believe the climate patterns of the region should probably be addressed, though maybe at some point after your TA is accepted, and with the input of other mappers in the area (particularly Huachachi and Intergalactic [AN155]). In particular the guideline map for Antarephia showing the winds and currents, I believe is outdated and difficult to reconcile with realistic wind patterns.

In my view, the main theme of the region should be a persistent west to east flow of both winds and currents, not unlike the Antarctic Circumpolars, as I have scribbled here over the previous map. My justification for this would be that 1. The southern ocean is similarly uninterrupted to that on Earth, so any eastbound current would be relatively unimpeded. 2. While the OGF landmasses extend further south than on Earth, there is no Antarctic continent that hem a circumpolar current in. 3. The region is not comparable to Earth's arctic as the Arctic ocean is almost entirely enclosed by shallow waters and landmasses, so there would not be nearly as much sea ice. 4. The result of the above two points would be that the polar high would be relatively weak allowing the westerly winds to extend further south, thus driving a strong circumpolar current. 5. The strong westerlies would result in a similar climate to Earth's southern ocean islands, maybe shifted around 5 degrees lattitude warmer than on Earth by the weaker polar cell.

The main change relative to the existing guidelines would really just be a change of the wind and current patterns, I believe the Köppen climate map is already pretty reasonable for the most part (the only thing that stands out to me is really the Itarnese western coast).

As a point of comparison, my (yet to be implemented) mapping plan for the southern island of Itarnar includes almost complete glaciation on the windward side, more or less in line with South Georgia (which is around 5 degrees further north) where freezing altitude is typically not over 1km, so significant snowfall would happen year round at even moderate elevation. If I were to nitpick your application, one point I would question is the extent of retreat of previous glaciation; as in my view, at the lattitudes in question, significant, if not almost complete glaciation would (still) be present along much of the westerly coast lines.

As I mentioned above, large part of this is really a topic for regional discussion, hopefully with the result that the mapping guidelines of AN may be updated in the future, but I hope bringing it up here would be helpful in avoiding surprises down the road.

Returning to more general observations, I do, on the other hand, agree with your positioning of the main population centres on the more easterly shores, as this would protect them from the violent westerly winds and currents, and would keep them in the rain shadow where summer temperatures and yearly sunshine amounts might just be enough to sustain some agriculture. I would, however, caution against comparisons with Scandinavia, as the circumpolar currents described above would result in very cold waters on the westerly shores (though likely slightly more temperate on the north-east side). Scandinavia is able to sustain very warm temperatures for the lattitude because of the combination of gulf stream and a polar jet influenced heavily by the massive Greenlandic ice cap and the warm ocean temperatures to bring warm air relatively far north. I think a better point of comparison might be eastern Tierra Del Fuego with slightly warmer summer temperatures influenced by the warmer sea to the north-east. I think north-facing harbours would not have much of an ice issue so long as they are not too deep in a fjord.

Regards, Qhfreddy (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, Qhfreddy! Let me address a few of your comments in no particular order.

Other than a few coastal glacial outwash plains, the terrain would be shaped by a combination of plate tectonics and glaciation, resulted in medium-tall but sharply elevated mountain ranges. For example, the main vein of mountains running through the core of the country would be topping out at maybe 3500 meters, but most mountainous areas would be in the 1500-2500 meter range. However, they would be very steep mountains rather than gradually inclining ones, with many valleys filled with waterways, some agriculture, and villages. Islands would have a similar constitution.
Agreed, if the request is approved there should be some sort of regional coordination and standardization of climate and oceanic currents.
I am amenable to defining as a cooperative regional thing exactly how far the glaciation went and still goes, for the application I basically applied the Koppen idea to get a general idea. It is worth noting that event in this proposal, much of the south would be glaciated above 300 meters of elevation.

Thank you!

Zytik (talk) 14:55, 23 July 2025 (UTC)