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Hello there!

Some might be aware of the idea of having a one big railway company operating in the Hetzer-bordering countries and their neighboors. I've already talked to some of my neighboors about that and the feedback seems rather positive.

Here's my idea - there would be a huge company that runs service in Shilesia, Utterland, Vinnmark, Welstand-Westrijk, possibly Koban and Estiensia, with some trains extending to neighboors of these countries. The idea is: most of the countries here are rather small, and internal HSR networks wouldn't be feasible. Countries of Hetzer are pretty well-linked together (as for OGF standards) and share a lot of common history. And as there would be one company that runs high-speed railways, it would also be sensible to have it run on conventional lines as well, supplimenting the HSR's and making the timetables synchronised so they are the most efficient.

Most of the railways are already there, and I assume that the tracks will only need upgrading to a higher standard that allows the trains to reach 220-250kph. There are some example HSR lines that I'd like to suggest:

HSR1: Hijklönd - Göra - Gasten - Kirchenburg - Ligota - Solsburg - Uisteren - Rijksbergen - (unnamed city in Ventria) - Lenvier

HSR2: Ligota / Kirchenburg - Berreau / Domont - Hanviller - Flakaberg - Bornwerd - (maybe Nederlaika(1)?) - Berles - Folldrup - Ruthersberg - Rougon - (maybe Colenford(2)?)

HSR3: (maybe Tynkøbing(2)) - Kongshavn - Tibirke - Köln - Kollekind - Rutberg - Vinn - Waver - Berles - Varlonge - Kolm - Pern

HSR4: (maybe Eauxvandes(3)) - (maybe Larmonne(3) - Szenhegy - Welle - Mirkbos - Uisteren - Rijksbergen - Jauvinne-en-Coselle - Berles

Okay, please let me know what you think about the project. I would like to hear some feedback (not only from users that might be involved!).


(1) Nederlaika is a smaller town but would be a sensible stop as it sits roughly inbetween Bornwerd and Berles, and could also service the nearby Laikenmoor and other possible towns in the area.

(2) As for cities in Wesmandy I assume how tracks could be running in modern times. I also assume that these towns stay somewhat decently-sized. Also - all depends on Pawl's conscent here.

(3) Franquese speaking country (UL141) isn't avaiable but from what we know it's safe to assume that it'll be a collaborative. I make an assumption that the city is still there, the railway exists and the company would be allowed to access the tracks.

Posted by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 15 April 2018 at 14:43.

Quite happy with these, the Utterland connections are the ones I envisaged. I would suggest to include HSR5 as the link from UL141 / Estiensia to Kreven, Mirkbos and Uisteren.

Posted by ADB52 on 15 April 2018 at 15:22.

I think that it would be sensible when Estiensia and UL141 are mapped and we're sure what's there (and if it's serviced by this company).

Posted by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 15 April 2018 at 15:42.

Sounds good to me. The lines are sensible enough and seem to connect the important cities quite well.

Posted by Adminero us on 18 April 2018 at 15:14.

I generally like the idea. But there's one important thing that should be considered as "set": The HSR network must have 1435mm normal gauge, allowing a "step-by-step" implementation with HSR trains using classical alignments as long as no all HSR sections have been built. Thus, not like the AVE case in spain or Shinkansen in Japan, where all highspeed trains can only use newly built lines, as long as no gauge-changing trainsets are in use (which is now the case at some lines in Spain and also planned for the Nagasaki line in Japan). So, it's more like Germany, Austria, Italy or France. In Kalm, I have the German case, with a polycentric network of highspeed lines is being built since 1984 (in Germany, the first line opened in the beginning of the 1990s). Stil, there are many "gaps" and a few lines currently under construction.

This brings us to the next important point (IMHO) of the Hetzer HSR network: I think that we should definetily not start with a "ready network", but implement it step by step, to be more realistic. For example, as already mentioned, the FLINX highspeed network in Kalm still has many "gaps" and also many routes where upgraded old alignments are in use (up to 230kph) instead of new alignments. For me it is very important to have a realistic world in western Uletha and it does not seem realistic to me that all HSR lines in the Hetzer region are already there in 2018, especially with regards to the "multi-country" situation, where political decisions for such an international project might be quite complicated. As for the Kalm section from Pern to the Vinnmark border near Kolm and the Ventrian section: There is definetily no newly built highspeed line yet. The Kalm line is in late planning stage, with parts of the line to be built as a new highspeed alignment and other parts to be realised as upgraded old alignments (230kph, some sections are already upgraded to 200kph). The Ventrian section is in early planning stage and it's not plausible that it will be built before the end of the next decade.

The motto is: "Dare to have gaps!" Let's start with only a few "core" sections of new HSR lines and let the network grow step by step in a realistic way. In the meantime, HSR trains would use a larger percentage of old lines. The implementation horizon for the whole network should be 2035 or only a bit earlier, in my point of view!

Posted by Joschi81 on 5 May 2018 at 18:31.

Yes, I definetely agree with your vision. It makes total sense, and this is how I envisioned the network. Core sections (which I'd imagine to be the most frequented lines: Berles - Vinn, Berles - Ligota/Kirchenburg, Kirchenburg - Uisteren, Szenhegy - Uisteren) should be the oldest to be built, with the rest running on conventional tracks for the moment being. 1435mm is the most logical gauge choice because AFAIK all the countries use this gauge for regular train lines.

Posted by Trabantemnaksiezyc on 6 May 2018 at 11:16.