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Hello isleño, what do you mean abaut the metro-map in this page? --Histor (talk) 00:32, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

Hi there, good idea. I was looking at Khaiwoon in OGF and it seems there are some new additions to the metro system (I see a spur to Expo Ctr and a tram through Gorypla... let me know if you notice any other changes), so I will go ahead and update the metro map before posting it. Thanks! Isleño (talk) 07:44, 31 July 2014 (CEST)
I was thinking about how to better integrate the Salsa Beach Line into the rest of the metro... What's a good number for it? Wangi (talk) 10:46, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

The tramline on Long Island is # 84. Metro-lines are from 1 to 12. So I think, it is good to take prominent # 20 for Salsa-Beach-Line and # 25 for the Gorypla-Tram. The city-tram til main-station may be have no number or # 19. I think, the ## 13 til 18 should be free (for reserve for metro)--Histor (talk) 11:48, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

Actually I like using names for the trams and streetcars. It's standard practice in Khaiwoon - not just with the Beach Line in Salsa, but also the Telegraph Street Streetcar in Astoria and the Pass Road Streetcar in Central. Using these names helps show that these lines are special parts of the system with their own unique character and history. The names also help riders understand that the streetcar lines are a different type of transit from subway and bus lines. I think the names are also more interesting to look at on a map. Personally I'd suggest keeping the Beach Line as it is and naming the tram in Gorypla the "Old Gorypla Line" or something to that effect. Isleño (talk) 12:33, 31 July 2014 (CEST)
Ah, that's what PRS stands for! I guess not all "trams" are made equal, we've got a new tram where I live and it's very much "light rail" rather than street car, along the lines of Karlsruhe Stadtbahn. That's what I pictured when I added the 4t line through Gorypla. A modern system built as a public transport counter when the Gorypla Expressway was built. With potentially a bit of through running with 4 and 4t... Beach Line is flagged as "light rail" so I pictured similar. Wangi (talk) 13:35, 31 July 2014 (CEST)
Haha unfortunately passenger rail terminology in English is pretty vague. But regardless of the details of the Beach Line, I think the fact that it wasn't tagged and labeled to look like the Metro lines means it was intended to be something unique. As for the Gorypla line, it looks like it's running on the street and has several sharp turns, which wouldn't make it compatible with Metro trains (the Metro is a heavy-duty system like the NYC subway or London Tube). So if you envision the "4t" as something modern like the Karlsruhe Stadtbahn, then maybe it could have a modern sounding name, like "New Gorypla Link" or something? Isleño (talk) 14:42, 31 July 2014 (CEST)
Right, 4t is now 25 - New Gorypla Tramtrain and the track alignments should be good. For the Beach Line I've just added points to allow access to Depot #5 and joined the two transfer stations (with Line 1 and Line 6) Wangi (talk) 15:39, 31 July 2014 (CEST)
Looks good, thanks! Isleño (talk) 17:10, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

How did you calculate

Your square mileage, population density, and how did you create your coat of arms.Bhj867 (talk) 03:42, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

For measuring area, JOSM has a plugin you can install: (In the case of Khaiwoon, the national boundary was not a single measurable object - it was a collection of separate paths - so I drew a shape that roughly approximated the area and used that number.) Once you know the area, density is just your total population divided by the area number.
All the elements in the coat of arms came from public domain images at and (for example the palm trees came from and the lions came from I edited them all together in Inkscape. Isleño (talk) 07:47, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

Bravo, thank you Bhj867 (talk)

Good luck! Isleño (talk) 12:22, 31 July 2014 (CEST)

Rockburn Island

Hello isleno.

"In 2014, the Larvernian Government finally decided to hand in full authority of Rockburn Island to the Government of the Khaiwoonese Republic. It was finally admitted as the 25th Local Municipal Area of Khaiwoon" :)

Please edit and remove the "private" word in the Rockburn Island. The island is fully yours. --Boge (talk) 16:57, 10 August 2014 (MST)

Wow, Rockburn belonged to Larvernia?? What's the story behind that? I thought it was just privately owned by a development company or something. --Isleño (talk) 01:12, 11 August 2014 (CEST)
Actually, I'm just kidding. There is NO story behind that. Forget the above statement, though it's kind of a good news headline. You know, like how the United Kingdom finally transferred the sovereignty of Hong Kong territory to the Chinese authorities. I was imagining in my alternate history that Rockburn is one of the trading posts of the Larvernian kingdom, but I think it's not plausible, since Khaiwoon already govern that area.
I just want Rockburn to be included in the list of the 'Local Municipal Areas' so that it wouldn't be the odd man out. --Boge (talk) 00:09, 11 August 2014 (MST)
Haha, okay. I thought it was actually kind of cool that it was unique. I was imagining that it belonged to some ultra wealthy landowner who had persuaded the Khaiwoonese government to exempt it from the oversight of an LMA. Will add it to the list of LMA's as per your request.  :-) --Isleño (talk) 08:18, 11 August 2014 (CEST)


Lovely map - and what a work (inhabitants and so on...). But for me very realistic. --Histor (talk) 21:22, 11 August 2014 (CEST)

Thanks! I tried to make it as "wiki style" as possible. Glad you like it. --Isleño (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2014 (CEST)

Singkarean dollar and trade relations with Khaiwoon

Can my country Singkangia also accept the Khaiwoon's Currency as legal tender and the Singkarean Pound also accepted in Khaiwoon, as the Singkarean Pound is equivalent to the Khaiwoon's pound so that it is exchangable? --Zhenkang (talk) 07:26, 22 December 2016 (CET)

Is it plausible that a country so far away would peg its currency to Khaiwoon? /wangi (talk) 10:55, 22 December 2016 (CET)

So do I take the answer as no? I just asked as I made my country's currency almost has the same value as yours. Never mind then. --Zhenkang (talk) 11:23, 22 December 2016 (CET)

Well I'm not in a place to say yes or no, that was just my opinion. /wangi (talk) 11:33, 22 December 2016 (CET)

Hm... well the benefit of Singkangia and Khaiwoon fully controlling their own separate currencies is that they can each set their own monetary policy without worrying about any effects on the other. To share currencies (essentially) would force them to share a single monetary policy, which may be difficult for two countries in very different parts of the world, and potentially very different economic situations. For example, say Khaiwoon wants to pump more currency into its economy, but Singkangia doesn't? So... maybe we should start out with something milder, like a free trade agreement and a sibling cities arrangement? Much less risk there, haha. Let me know what you think. Cheers, --Isleño (talk) 16:27, 23 December 2016 (CET)

A free trade agreement will do with Singkangia. Thanks--Zhenkang (talk) 01:08, 24 December 2016 (CET)
Great, thanks! --Isleño (talk) 06:31, 24 December 2016 (CET)
Can someone help edit this image
The Free Trade Agreement signed on 25 September 2015
so that it is Khaiwoon's adn Singkangia's flag behind? Thanks--Zhenkang (talk) 08:56, 28 January 2017 (CET)
You'd need to edit the people, too: George W. Bush and Colin Powell don't exist in the OGF world, haha. So, probably not worth the effort... but I wouldn't worry about it, I think it's okay not to have a photo of this momentous occasion. :-) --Isleño (talk) 10:15, 28 January 2017 (CET)
Never mind if you don't want to add under politics. I doubt other wikipedia article shows this as evidence of relations between two countries--Zhenkang (talk) 10:23, 28 January 2017 (CET)


test update (will be deleted later)