Talk:OGF:Sandbox/Main Page/DidYouKnow

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Instructions for nomination

To nominate a link for "Did you know...", write your suggested "Did you know..." snippet below, following the "* ... that blah blah blah?" pattern, and add your signature. Example:

If your nomination is accepted by the "Did you know" administrator, it will deleted here and added to the main list. If you feel very strongly about your nomination, you may contact the "Did you know" administrator (Currently User:Luciano) to "lobby" for your suggestion.

Nominations begin here

  • ... that Weidjuret of Mahhal became Prime Minister in 1944, but his father who lived overseas in the Ardisphere never knew about it?--Isleño (talk) 03:34, 12 February 2015 (CET)
  • ... that John the Bear (Wakahahuppon) was born in a tent, but died an honorable member of the Latinian Senate?--Isleño (talk) 03:34, 12 February 2015 (CET)
  • ... that the family Du Bois in Latina always has 10.000.000 Pounds cash in safe in the cellar of the old palace?--Histor (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2015 (CET)
  • ... that the Dagelandic Kegel is one of the most difficult currencies to use, due to its complicated system of subunits, and can be written in 3 different formats?--Boge (talk) 08:56, 13 February 2015 (CET)

Discussion

It can be challenging to pick the most surprising or interesting fact from an article, but just looking at the articles already nominated, I'd suggest these:

... isleño's suggestions merged to nomination list and deleted here to prevent confusion ...

The more interesting examples we choose, the more we interesting nominations we encourage. Hopefully. :-) --Isleño (talk) 03:34, 12 February 2015 (CET)

I agree completely! I only made those snippets as a matter of a quick "first draft" - I was focused on building the page infrastructure. Your snippets are much better. If we imagine updating once a month, per your idea, then I'm sure we will build up a strong backlog of excellent snippets. Unlike with the other "Features" (where I have suggested a "do not nominate your own" policy), I had been thinking that authors themselves are in the best position to make snippets, but that might not be the case, as you have just demonstrated - how about a "do not nominate your own" policy for "Did you know..." too? I think it will improve collegiality and interaction on the website.--Luciano (talk) 03:46, 12 February 2015 (CET)
To be honest I don't mind people nominating their own stuff in any category, but I think either way is fine. Btw why was Weidjuret's father unaware that his son had become prime minister? Was it because they were estranged, or because of Mahhal's isolationism? --Isleño (talk) 03:59, 12 February 2015 (CET)
Yes I'm not sure we need to be so strict about self-nomination, especially since there will be a layer of editorial decision-making too, but I was thinking that starting out that way will give us more interesting style of participation. I just don't want to have the nomination lists sagging with large numbers of self-nominations by a few users, and was thinking that making us nominate each other's work will give a more even covarage of the whole OGF world. RE Weidjuret's father: Nessomeppedomet died less than a year after Weidjuret became prime minister, and the estrangement combined with slow-travelling news or minimal news coverage in the Ardispherian press due to Mahhal's isolationism, meant that he never found out.--Luciano (talk) 04:08, 12 February 2015 (CET)
Thanks for explaining, I'm definitely looking forward to learning more about Mahhal. And thanks again for all the effort you're putting into this new main page. It's going to be great. --Isleño (talk) 07:50, 12 February 2015 (CET)

Why you are both (Luciano and isleño) so bureaucratic? I think, that self nomination must not be strictly forbidden. If someone thinks, this item can be of interest, he / she may nominate. Nominate is not, that it appears. After nomination then can be proofed, if this item is good enought or interesting, to appear as "Did you know ..." or "featured article" or "featured map". Yes, you may seek at others - but if you always find the hidden pearls, that is the question. --Histor (talk) 12:46, 12 February 2015 (CET)

I don't like to be called bureaucratic. It is insulting. It is unfair and unkind and unnecessary. Furthermore, it misunderstands my words, and misunderstands my intent. My intent is to contribute to the community, and build a system that maximizes participation and inclusion. My words, to summarize, say that it is a proposal to encourage people to look at other people's work. I also say, quite clearly, "I'm not sure we need to be so strict about self-nomination, especially since there will be a layer of editorial decision-making too" which has the same meaning as "I think, that self nomination must not be strictly forbidden. If someone thinks, this item can be of interest, he / she may nominate. Nominate is not, that it appears. After nomination then can be proofed, if this item is good enought or interesting".--Luciano (talk) 14:44, 12 February 2015 (CET)
Sorry, I do not want be unkind to you. "Bureaucratic" means only, that rules are not for itself, but for a result.
So I ask me, what shall be the result? You have designed this good looking main-page with the actuel map- and wiki-features, to see on the main page maps, articles or "Did you knows" of common interest. So everybody can marke, what he has found for this categories on the page of other mapper. But on the other hand it should be not impossible, to make an announcement for own items, for that somebody means, it is some special. So I think, we had the same intention. --Histor (talk) 15:05, 12 February 2015 (CET)
Me too. When I said "I don't mind" = I think it's OK. --Isleño (talk) 18:59, 12 February 2015 (CET)