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Every Which Way but Loose

Today's entry isn't particularly interesting, but you're here now, so you might as well read on.

Without as much free time as I used to have, there hasn't been a lot of mapping going on in Vodeo these last few months; mostly it's been small tinkering, given what time I do have has to be divvied up a lot more than it once was. As a result, I've not wanted to tackle any of the large projects I've got lined up, but instead have felt like doing more minor, but no less important, things around Saviso. For the most part, this has involved straightening out and re-doing some of the suburbs around the city centre, as part of the larger re-mapping of the city that I've been undertaking this year. Let's take a look around the central suburbs and see what's been happening.

Most of what I've been doing has involved grids, which you all know I don't care much for when they go on for miles at a time. Take Harborough, for instance; the suburb had been gridded, but it was a little like Aslington in that there was no order to the streets. Unfortunately for quite some time, I had tried not to map grids as I felt they were inaccurate for the time period (17th-early 19th centuries), however research has shown me that grids were quite common. After thinking it over for a while, I hit on an idea: for more than 90 years, Dublin was re-shaped by the Wide Streets Commission (officially the "Commissioners for making Wide and Convenient Ways, Streets and Passages" – isn't that name just delightful?). If Dublin could have a public body that steered urban design at the time, why couldn't Saviso?

With this in mind, I began straightening out the streets and making them meet at Nice Angles, just as I did in Aslington. Harborough, one of the city's oldest suburbs (ca. 1630s), now looks far nicer with its neatly ordered streets and tightly packed buildings, as does Rhodestown, which now looks tidy and a fit place for the Rhodestown Borough Council to call home. Kendalltown and Renoak, which I could never figure out what to do with, looked to Melbourne for ideas, and came back with another grid that looks far nicer than the one I mapped there in 2017. Across the river, a slight reconfiguration of Limes allowed for a new railway line to shoot across the river and up between Rambaud and Godley; after months of trying to figure out how to fit the Asquith line in, the grid finally provided the answer.

Swinging eastward now, we pass Medbury, which has replaced its grand circus (that's a roundabout to the rest of you) and underpass with a rather boring junction. The idea came from some of the busy junctions around central Sydney, and as Medbury Junction is where five major roads meet, it stands to reason that this would be a busy part of the city. I'm considering putting the ugly underpass back in because it was a good idea to the town planners of the 1960s (and a right eyesore for residents in the 2010s). Silverwater Road and the Saviso River have both been realigned, the former to eliminate a few of the absurd meanders I'd put in, and the latter to make it a shorter trip from Saviso to Silverwater.

As we arrive in the central south-eastern suburbs, you might think all looks as it did, but it doesn't. See all that empty land around Meredith? That used to be water and wetland. The more I'd looked at the Meredith Inlet, the more I thought it looked ugly and made little sense; it was also impeding on the city's growth, and so it had to go. Meredith, which once sat on a small peninsula, now has plenty of land all around, land which has attracted devlopers that have been building all along the new Meredith Road at a furious pace. This was another part of the city that I could never figure out what to do with, but once the motorway and the inlet were gone, I could start afresh. Hadseltlie (ha-selt-ee), Ladnier (lad-nee-ah), and Tembor (tem-bor) finally have streets of their own, while Fearon has lost its old grid and will soon have a grand new one. Around here you'll find a newly realigned railway line to Sthilldina (still-dee-na – you getting sick of all these Beha names yet?) and Cobalt Island that now curves gracefully through Tembor, Meredith, and Thurdyne (ter-dine, I'll stop now), rather than being forced to continue on from Pontefract due to the old Meredith Inlet.

Saviso as mapped in 2007. The city hasn't looked anything like this since it was re-mapped in 2010, but some of the suburb and street names have carried over through successive re-mappings in 2012, 2016, and on OGF. The Saviso Domain is at bottom mid-right underneath the motorway.

One change worth pointing out is fairly minor to look at, but is quite major considering the real-world history of Saviso. The Saviso Domain has been part of the city since 2007, its name coming from the larger (and admittedly grander) Auckland Domain - I know, very original, but I was 13, shut up. The Domain has been a major part of the city - it wouldn't be Saviso without it. Recently though, I was thinking about it as I was clearing out Fearon's old street layout. The long, straight Fearon Road which ran south from St Kitts was boring and ignored the topography, and I was a little unsure about calling it a "domain" rather than a "park". I didn't want to part with the name given its long history, but I soon realised there was a way around it. Admore Park is a similarly old name, dating back to around 2010, and has reappeared in each re-map — originally as a suburb close to the city centre, and on OGF roughly halfway down Silverwater Road, roughly where Latham (itself moved from near Medbury and Broadfield) now sits. Admore Park has now lost its status as a suburb, but has gained the prestige of becoming Saviso's main city park, and given that I try and preserve names as the city evolves, I think it's a fitting replacement. Because I don't want to completely dump such an old part of Saviso, the Domain will re-appear in future, probably somewhere around Granville, Eaton, or Wellsford, and a bit smaller than it once was.

I've not just been looking at grids and street layouts as of late, but also the entirety of Saviso as a metropolitan area. The geography of the Saviso Peninsula, and in particular the bays along the Caipah Harbour, don't quite sit right with me. While I know a few of you are quite partial to Saviso's coastline, my aim was to try and loosely recreate the city's coastline as it was in a 2015-16 map of St Austell (which is way too large to upload here, even Imgur would have second thoughts), and to be perfectly honest, I haven't really done so (with the possible exception of the area around Lake Audhill). Some of the Eastern Bays look like enormous bites have been taken out of the land, and while I had been channelling Sydney when I mapped it, I don't really like it anymore. The plan is to fill in the most egregious offenders (namely Harcourt and Enfield Bays) and replace them with smaller, nicer-looking ones that stick a little closer to the 2015-16 map. This should give Saviso more room to expand, the other part of Saviso I've been thinking about.

Saviso as I envision it has a population of more than five million, which currently makes it the fourth-largest city in Tarephia and the eleventh-largest in the world. You wouldn't think to look at it, though - comparing Saviso with Sydney (which has always been the basis for the city's shape) reveals that Saviso is much smaller and hemmed in tightly as opposed to Sydney, which goes on for absolutely forever (I find Sydney and Melbourne both a bit too big compared with Auckland, a city I know very well). If Saviso is to be realistically considered a city of five million, it's going to have to grow in a big way. While I had wanted there to be something of a gap separating Saviso from its satellite towns of Batley, Aberfeldy, and Casserres, after looking at Sydney, it seems that the gap is going to have to go; the city simply can't end at Inaigas as it does now. While I could make Saviso a densely-packed metropolis, that's never been how I've thought of the city; rather as one that mushroomed rapidly during the 20th century, and in the 21st is trying to rein in its growth by building up what it has much more than it did in the past. Given that the south-east is quite rugged, logic dictates that the city would grow out along the harbour and into the Grable Valley, much as Sydney has done on the Cumberland Plain.

Uh oh.

But that's going to have to wait. Given I don't expect to be making another bliki entry this month, I'll use this one to warn you all now: Curious Vodeo is returning next month with more strange and unusual stories from around the country. I'm going to spend the rest of September preparing those parts of the country that I'll have stories for, but given how much there still is to do, don't expect things to look mega fantastic. With that in mind, meet me in Gerrise on October 3rd where we'll kick things off with one of the city's most notorious figures. Be prepared.

By order of the Lands Survey Department,
ParAvion (talk) 01:53, 9 September 2019 (CEST)

Comments go down here

Signatures and timestamps, you know the drill. No standing in the way of progress.

I had tried not to map grids as I felt they were inaccurate for the time period (17th-early 19th centuries), however research has shown me that grids were quite common.
Yes, grids were indeed common and can be found in cities all over the world which were developing between the 1600s to 1800s. I think you have the right idea with your grids because you keep these grids small and the grids tend to align with the nearest major road.
Also, does Saviso absolutely have to be "the fourth-largest city in Tarephia and the eleventh-largest in the world"? That's a pretty ambitious goal (not to mention that statements like this are frowned upon by several mappers in our community). Maybe reimagining Saviso to be one of the largest cities in Tarephia and among the largest in the world would give you and other mappers more flexibility.
Chazeltine (talk) 02:37, 9 September 2019 (CEST)

I find that smaller grids also look nicer and helps to break the map up into neighbourhoods. Saviso's ranking isn't a goal, it's simply where it is on the list of cities - I have periodically updated the city's wiki article to reflect changes in the list, and if larger cities appear, then I'll move Saviso down accordingly. I'll concede that my wording was a little unclear, so I've changed it to clarify things. I'm thinking of dialling down the population a bit, somewhere around 4.5-5 million, as 5.5 million might be a bit too high. — ParAvion (talk) 02:58, 9 September 2019 (CEST)
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